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Recreation Committee — August 20, 2025

Sunapee Rec Committee debated basketball courts, a $250K capital plan, skate park placement, and Fall Fest's survival on August 20 — none of it was on the agenda.

The meeting was largely collaborative, but the extended and unresolved debate over basketball versus pickleball space — conducted off-agenda with a hard October deadline — introduced real tension and reflects a broader unresolved community values conflict that the board has not yet formally surfaced for public input.

Date Wednesday, August 20, 2025 Duration 2.1h Speakers 7 Decisions 4 Lively
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At the August 20, 2025 Town of Sunapee Recreation Committee meeting, some of the most significant decisions of the year were deliberated — but none of them were on the published agenda. Residents who didn't already know to attend had no way to prepare, and no way to show up specifically for these discussions.

The longest and most contentious debate of the night was about the 80x80 court space: specifically, whether to prioritize pickleball, preserve basketball, or configure a shared layout. This was not listed on the agenda. Community members have already raised concerns about losing basketball access — including for youth players — but the committee is now working toward an October painting deadline with no formal public input process in place. Informal feedback via QR codes and conversations is planned, but that is not the same as a noticed public meeting. The committee did reach a general consensus to preserve both sports in the space, but no final court layout has been decided.

Also discussed off-agenda: a detailed Veterans Field master plan with a total estimated cost of approximately $250,000, drawing on roughly $150,000 in capital reserve funds and $84,000 in Sugar River funds. Specific proposals included a $35,000 bathroom facility, a $7,000 swing set, $5,000–$7,000 in tree work for a sledding hill, and an electronic scoreboard. The committee framed this as conceptual and non-binding, but agreed to update the project description for the town website and bring a presentation to the Select Board. A proposed skate park location adjacent to the public safety building parking area was also debated without being on the agenda — a siting decision that typically generates strong community reaction.

Finally, Fall Fest 2025 may not happen. SPTO has declined to lead it, Project Sunapee's involvement is uncertain, and the Recreation Department has said it will provide support but will not organize the event. A two-week window has been set to find a leader — but no public announcement has been made about this risk. The one formally noticed and voted item was a $450 allocation for a ski movie event on November 8th, approved unanimously. Sunapee residents: the October deadline for the court reconfiguration is approaching fast. If you have an opinion about basketball, pickleball, or how that public space gets used, now is the time to contact the Recreation Committee.

Aug 20, 2025 2.1h long 7 speakers 4 decisions Lively
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“There's $150,000 in the capital reserve fund. There's an additional $84,000 in the sugar work funds... we're talking $250,000. As an organization, we should be stewards of the land, the recreation and the money.”

— Unidentified speaker · Discussing available funding for Veterans Field master plan implementation ▶ 41:01

“This committee cannot allocate funds to be on anything other than veterans field... If it was even on your land at all.”

— Unidentified speaker · Clarifying funding restrictions when asked about collaboration with school playground committee ▶ 15:19

“We're building a house. These are the elements we want in the house. These are the proposed elements in the house. They're subject to change. This isn't in stone.”

— Unidentified speaker · Explaining the conceptual nature of the master plan proposal to committee members ▶ 35:52

“When you start to pick away at these elements, $250,000 could actually do all of these elements with smart decisions”

— Unidentified speaker · Discussing the overall Veterans Field project budget breakdown ▶ 56:48

“The space itself is getting more use than any of the four years that I've been doing this so far”

— Unidentified speaker · Referring to current usage of the pickleball courts ▶ 57:45

“We went from having zero pickleball courts to the entire area being pickleball. It's not a multi-use area anymore”

— Unidentified speaker · Expressing concern about loss of basketball access ▶ 1:07:07

“If you're gonna do something, do it right. So if this is the pickleball space in town, let's make it the pickleball space”

— Unidentified speaker · Advocating for proper facility design over compromised multi-use ▶ 1:13:47

“We're trying to make sure we're following what the taxpayers are asking us and doing more for other demographics”

— Unidentified speaker · Defending focus on adult recreation programs like pickleball based on survey results ▶ 1:16:46

“I think for $400, you do it and you get the feedback because we've never done it before. We talk about it, we do it.”

— Unidentified speaker · Advocating for proceeding with the ski movie event as a low-risk trial ▶ 1:58:57

“I can provide them pumpkins. I can provide assistance to set up with the day of like Ian and I did last year. I'm not in the craft. Take over an event or say the rec department is leading this event.”

— Unidentified speaker · Clarifying the recreation department's limited capacity for Fall Fest support ▶ 1:53:15

“SPTO has said we do not want to lead it. We have no problem participating in setting up some of the games like we provided last year.”

— Unidentified speaker · Declining organizational leadership for Fall Fest while offering support ▶ 1:51:54
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Public ⁠impact

Issues from this meeting with documented community impact.
What was discussed

Approximately $250,000 in public funds (capital reserve and Sugar River funds) proposed for scoreboard, playground, skate park, bathrooms, and sledding hill — the largest recreation capital project discussed by this committee

What was discussed

Potential elimination or reduction of dedicated basketball court space at the primary municipal recreation area; final configuration not yet determined but October painting deadline is imminent

Topics ⁠discussed

Each topic expands to quotes and full context.
Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Roll call conducted with Dan, Brenda, Scott, Jamie, Ian, Nicole, and Steve present. July meeting minutes approved unanimously.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Steve provided budget update showing Fund 11 Sugar River balance of $106,960. Several completed projects await fund transfers including veterans field ($12,580), skate park design ($2,000), and Turkey Trout donations ($32,350). Walking path completed at $23,750 and pickleball/basketball courts at $11,450.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Committee discussed repurposing the current 80x80 space with pickleball courts and basketball court, with resurfacing scheduled for October. Community feedback noted concerns about basketball court removal and three pickleball courts. Extensive discussion about how to configure the space, weighing options between basketball half-court, pickleball courts (2 vs 3), regulation vs. non-regulation sizes, and multi-use arrangements.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Dan presented comprehensive master plan proposal including electronic scoreboard, playground area, skate park location, bathrooms/concessions, and sledding hill. Discussion focused on land use boundaries and coordination with public safety departments.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Proposed double-sided electronic scoreboard visible from Route 11, with one side for advertising/community announcements and other for game scores. Potential barrier identified regarding state land acquisition.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussed playground placement options, with proposed location in wetlands area requiring bridge access or alternative locations. Clarified difference from elementary school playground committee's separate project.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Extensive discussion on skate park placement, with proposal for location near public safety building parking area. Addressed concerns about visibility and coordination with fire/police departments.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussion of estimated costs for various elements including $7,000 swing set, scoreboard funding from donors, $5-7,000 tree work for sled hill, and $35,000 bathroom facility based on Andover's model. Total estimated at $250,000 for all elements with smart decisions.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Committee agreed to update the current Veterans field project description to be more descriptive and detailed, with a speaker taking responsibility for the updates.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussion of high usage of new pickleball courts, management of regional visitors, and balancing community use with programmed activities. Courts are being used more than any previous four years.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Debate over maintaining basketball access versus dedicating space to pickleball, discussing alternative basketball locations (Dewey Beach, elementary school) and whether to maintain multi-use functionality.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Technical discussion about regulation pickleball court dimensions (20x44 feet with 30x60 recommended space including 5-foot ends and 8-foot sides) versus available 80x80 space, leading to trade-offs between number of courts and regulation compliance.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussion of gathering community input through QR codes, informal conversations, and potentially holding a designated community meeting before October painting deadline. Committee considering two regulation courts versus three non-regulation courts.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussion about who will organize Fall Fest 2025, with SPTO declining to lead and uncertainty about Project Sunapee's involvement. The committee needs to determine if the event will happen at all.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Dan proposed hosting a ski movie event at the library on November 8th, featuring films from Mastic Productions. The event would cost $450 for the movie license and venue rental, with tickets sold to cover costs.

Controversy & ⁠dissent

Where the board, the community, or the agenda diverged.

Potentially controversial issues

01

80x80 Court Reconfiguration: Basketball vs. Pickleball Space Allocation

The redesign of the 80x80 area was not on the public agenda yet generated the meeting's longest and most contested debate. Community members had already raised concerns about basketball court removal and the shift to three pickleball courts. Basketball players — including youth — stand to lose dedicated space, while pickleball demand is surging. The October painting deadline creates urgency, limiting public input time. This is an aggravated transparency concern because the most substantive deliberation happened off-agenda.
Board position: Reached consensus to maintain coexistence of both sports in the 80x80 space, but has not finalized the court layout (2 regulation vs. 3 non-regulation pickleball courts) and directed members to gather informal community feedback before October.
Internal dissent
a speaker argued for committing fully to pickleball ('if this is the pickleball space, let's make it the pickleball space'), while a speaker expressed concern that the area had already lost its multi-use character ('we went from zero pickleball courts to the entire area being pickleball'). a speaker defended the pickleball focus based on taxpayer survey results. No single configuration achieved consensus — the decision was deferred pending community feedback.
high concern
02

Veterans Field Master Plan Scope and $250,000 Budget

The agenda listed a 'collaborative master planning session' but the meeting moved well beyond that to a detailed proposal with specific facilities (electronic scoreboard, skate park, playground, bathrooms, sledding hill) and a $250,000 total cost estimate. This scope expansion was not publicly noticed, limiting resident input. The plan draws on approximately $150,000 in capital reserve and $84,000 in Sugar River funds — significant public money — without a formal public process at this stage.
Board position: Conceptually supportive of the full master plan; agreed to update the project description for the website and prepare a Select Board presentation. a speaker framed the plan as non-binding ('not in stone').
medium concern
03

Fall Fest 2025 Leadership Vacuum

SPTO has declined to lead Fall Fest and Project Sunapee's involvement is uncertain, raising the real possibility the community event may not happen at all. The Recreation Department has explicitly stated it cannot lead the event. Residents who rely on this annual community event have no notice of its potential cancellation, and no decision has been made.
Board position: No decision made; directed a speaker to contact SPTO and Project Sunapee within two weeks to determine if leadership exists. The committee signaled it will provide logistical support (pumpkins, day-of help) but will not organize the event.
medium concern
04

Skate Park Relocation Near Public Safety Building

The proposed skate park location adjacent to the public safety building parking area was discussed without being on the public agenda. The placement raises coordination concerns with fire and police departments, and skate park siting decisions typically generate strong community opinion from both supporters and opponents regarding noise, safety, and oversight.
Board position: Directionally supportive of the location but has not formally approved it; directed Steve to coordinate with fire and police chiefs before the next meeting.
medium concern

Community vs. board tension

Public ⁠comment

What residents said — verbatim, with timestamps.
No public comments were identified in this meeting.

Decisions ⁠logged

Every recorded vote, with timestamps and dissents.
July meeting minutes approved
All in favor, none opposed for July meeting minutes
Approved unanimously
Agreement to update Veterans Field project description to be more descriptive
Committee agreed this was a conversation item rather than requiring formal motion
Consensus - no formal vote required
Agreement to maintain pickleball and basketball coexistence on the 80x80 space
All committee members agreed to continue having both sports share the space rather than dedicating it to one sport
Consensus agreement
Approved $450 allocation for ski movie event
Motion to allocate $450 to cover Mastic Productions agreement ($400) and library rental ($50) for November 8th ski movie event. Any additional funds from ticket sales to go to programming.
Passed unanimously

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Off-agenda deliberation on 80x80 court reconfiguration with imminent deadline and no formal public input process
At the 8/20 Sunapee Recreation Committee meeting, the entire debate over basketball vs. pickleball court space at the 80x80 area happened OFF-AGENDA. Residents had no notice. An October painting deadline is now forcing a decision. Was your voice included?
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Scope and cost of Veterans Field capital plan discussed without public notice
Sunapee Rec Committee 8/20: A $250,000 plan for Veterans Field — scoreboard, skate park, playground, bathrooms, sledding hill — was detailed off-agenda. That's ~$150K in capital reserve + $84K in Sugar River funds. No formal public hearing scheduled.
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Community event viability at risk with no public notice or decision
Fall Fest 2025 in Sunapee may not happen. SPTO has declined to lead it. Project Sunapee's involvement is unclear. The Rec Dept says it can help but won't organize it. A decision is needed in 2 weeks. Residents: has anyone told you this is at risk?
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Off-agenda skate park siting discussion with community impact and no public notice
Sunapee Rec Committee 8/20: A skate park location near the public safety building was debated — also NOT on the agenda. Siting a skate park next to fire/police raises real questions. Residents who care had no chance to show up and weigh in.
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THREAD: Sunapee Recreation Committee met 8/20/25. Several significant decisions were deliberated — but weren't on the public agenda. Here's what residents missed and why it matters. 🧵
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1/ The biggest debate of the night: what to do with the 80x80 court space. Basketball vs. pickleball. This discussion was NOT on the agenda. Community members had already raised concerns about losing basketball space — but had no notice this was being decided.
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2/ The October painting deadline is real. Whatever layout they choose — 2 regulation pickleball courts, 3 non-regulation, or a shared basketball/pickleball space — has to be locked in soon. The committee plans informal feedback via QR codes and conversations. That's not a public hearing.
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3/ Internal division was real too. One member said 'if this is the pickleball space, let's make it the pickleball space.' Another said 'we went from zero pickleball courts to the entire area being pickleball — it's not multi-use anymore.' No final layout was agreed upon.
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4/ Also off-agenda: a detailed $250,000 Veterans Field master plan. Specific cost estimates — $35K bathrooms, $7K swing set, $5-7K tree work for a sledding hill, electronic scoreboard — were discussed. The money is real: ~$150K capital reserve + $84K Sugar River funds.
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5/ Also off-agenda: a proposed skate park location next to the public safety building. Siting decisions for skate parks generate strong community opinion. Steve was directed to coordinate with fire/police chiefs — but residents were given no chance to weigh in.
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6/ And: Fall Fest 2025 may not happen. SPTO won't lead it. Project Sunapee's role is unclear. The Rec Dept won't organize it. A contact is being made in the next two weeks to find out if anyone will step up. Residents have not been publicly notified of this risk.
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7/ The committee did approve one item on the record: $450 for a ski movie event at the library (or The Livery — the minutes and transcript differ on the venue) on November 8th. That vote was unanimous and properly noticed.
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8/ Bottom line: The most consequential decisions of the 8/20 meeting — affecting basketball courts, a quarter-million in public funds, skate park placement, and a community event — were all discussed without being on the public agenda. Residents deserved advance notice.
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At the August 20, 2025 Town of Sunapee Recreation Committee meeting, some of the most significant decisions of the year were deliberated — but none of them were on the published agenda. Residents who didn't already know to attend had no way to prepare, and no way to show up specifically for these discussions.

The longest and most contentious debate of the night was about the 80x80 court space: specifically, whether to prioritize pickleball, preserve basketball, or configure a shared layout. This was not listed on the agenda. Community members have already raised concerns about losing basketball access — including for youth players — but the committee is now working toward an October painting deadline with no formal public input process in place. Informal feedback via QR codes and conversations is planned, but that is not the same as a noticed public meeting. The committee did reach a general consensus to preserve both sports in the space, but no final court layout has been decided.

Also discussed off-agenda: a detailed Veterans Field master plan with a total estimated cost of approximately $250,000, drawing on roughly $150,000 in capital reserve funds and $84,000 in Sugar River funds. Specific proposals included a $35,000 bathroom facility, a $7,000 swing set, $5,000–$7,000 in tree work for a sledding hill, and an electronic scoreboard. The committee framed this as conceptual and non-binding, but agreed to update the project description for the town website and bring a presentation to the Select Board. A proposed skate park location adjacent to the public safety building parking area was also debated without being on the agenda — a siting decision that typically generates strong community reaction.

Finally, Fall Fest 2025 may not happen. SPTO has declined to lead it, Project Sunapee's involvement is uncertain, and the Recreation Department has said it will provide support but will not organize the event. A two-week window has been set to find a leader — but no public announcement has been made about this risk. The one formally noticed and voted item was a $450 allocation for a ski movie event on November 8th, approved unanimously. Sunapee residents: the October deadline for the court reconfiguration is approaching fast. If you have an opinion about basketball, pickleball, or how that public space gets used, now is the time to contact the Recreation Committee.

Action ⁠items

Who owes what, by when.
Update master plan documents based on committee feedback and prepare for select board presentation
Assigned: Dan · Due: September meeting
Facilitate coordination with fire department and police chief regarding proposed skate park location near public safety building
Assigned: Steve · Due: Before next committee meeting
Update Veterans Field project description on website to be more descriptive and reference strategic planning survey
Assigned: Dan · Due: Not specified
Work with finance department to complete pending fund transfers totaling approximately $50,000
Assigned: Steve · Due: End of August
Update Veterans Field project description documents with more detail based on committee feedback
Assigned: a speaker · Due: Before next meeting
Gather community feedback on court configuration through informal conversations and potentially QR code survey
Assigned: Committee members · Due: Before October painting
Make three phone calls to pickleball players to get feedback on space and cross-court issues
Assigned: a speaker · Due: Before next meeting
Create iterations of pickleball court layouts and bring back final proposal
Assigned: Dan (a speaker) · Due: Next meeting
Contact SPTO and Project Sunapee to determine Fall Fest leadership and coordination
Assigned: a speaker · Due: Two weeks
Form subcommittee to develop ski movie event details
Assigned: Dan (a speaker) and a speaker · Due: September meeting

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