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Highway Safety Committee — September 3, 2025

Sunapee residents got no advance notice before their Highway Safety Committee discussed a permanent four-way stop on Bradford Road — and a separate DOT policy shift that could make such changes routine.

The meeting was substantively engaged and occasionally tense — particularly around the Route 11 four-way stop where a community member directly challenged the committee's direction — but was tempered by the committee's willingness to pivot toward alternatives and the absence of any split votes.

Date Wednesday, September 3, 2025 Duration 1.5h Speakers 12 Decisions 3 Lively

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SUNAPEE HIGHWAY SAFETY COMMITTEE — September 3, 2025 Meeting Recap

Two significant traffic proposals were discussed at last Wednesday's Highway Safety Committee meeting that were not listed on the public agenda — meaning residents had no specific notice to attend and engage.

First: the committee chair raised the idea of a four-way stop at Bradford Road and Nutting Road. The supporting data is real — 68,000 vehicles counted on that corridor, average speeds of 38 mph in a posted 30 mph zone, and Bradford Road accounting for 16–22% of all quarterly police traffic stops in town. But Bradford Road residents were given no advance notice this would be on the table. A four-way stop would permanently alter traffic flow on their street, and the state DOT made clear at the same meeting that four-way stops are irreversible — once installed, the only escalation options are a traffic signal or a roundabout.

Second: that irreversibility point came from a broader DOT policy presentation — also not on the public agenda — describing a new approach to implementing four-way stops proactively rather than reactively. This is a policy shift that could affect how Sunapee makes traffic infrastructure decisions going forward. Businesses, freight operators, and commuters on Route 11 and elsewhere had no notice this direction was being presented and discussed. On the Route 11/Lower Main Street intersection specifically, a community member with 40 years of local experience pointed out that only 5 accidents have occurred there in 10 years — and said she has never personally found it dangerous. The committee acknowledged the low crash history and, to their credit, pivoted toward exploring traffic calming alternatives and a temporary demonstration project rather than committing to a four-way stop immediately.

Also decided at the meeting: the Fenton Landing crosswalk — a pedestrian safety project near the harbor — was unanimously tabled until at least March 2026. The reason is that ADA compliance requirements were discovered after the project was already underway, and the associated costs weren't accounted for in the original scope. No public cost estimate has been released yet. Residents who were expecting that improvement, particularly those with mobility challenges accessing the harbor, are now waiting at least another six months.

The Bradford Road four-way stop and rural centerline painting issues have been formally added to the December 4 agenda (9:00 AM, moved to Thursday). If you live on Bradford Road or use Route 11 regularly, that is the meeting to attend.

Sep 3, 2025 1.5h long 12 speakers 3 decisions Lively
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“Our perspective with these Always Stops is we're pretty much implementing them wherever we've got local support and a history of complaints with local support”

— Speaker B (DOT) · Explaining DOT policy on four-way stop implementation ▶ 33:08

“Just one thing to note that once you go four way stop, there's no going back. You only go up either signalized or roundabout”

— Speaker C (DOT) · Warning about permanence of four-way stop implementation ▶ 35:28

“I am never unable to make a right or left turn. And I never in 40 years felt it was a danger... There's only been five accidents in this four corner situation here [in 10 years]”

— Speaker H (Kathy Meyer) · Local resident opposing four-way stop based on personal experience and crash data ▶ 37:47

“I would much rather go preemptive, as I think North Carolina did, and say, you know, this is a concern that's there. This is how we're going to address it”

— Speaker I (Peter Hoekstra) · Advocating for proactive safety measures at the intersection ▶ 51:59

“Most calming is done visually... You almost want to introduce more of the area to force people to slow down... Wide shoulders just make you feel like you're going slow.”

— Unidentified speaker · Explaining traffic calming principles and why current road design may encourage speeding ▶ 56:36

“There's a lot more information that we need to add... we shouldn't be discussing it. There's a lot more information that we need to add.”

— Unidentified speaker · Explaining why Fenton Landing crosswalk project needs to be tabled due to ADA compliance discoveries ▶ 1:18:18

“I just wanted to compliment the safety committee on the successful One Way River Road... I think it's been great and added some parking.”

— Unidentified speaker · Public feedback on recent traffic pattern change implementation ▶ 1:20:02

“16% of our stops in quarter one were on Bradford Road, 22% were on quarter two... the average speed is about 38 miles per hour in the 85th percentile... is 42, 43 miles per hour”

— Unidentified speaker · Providing traffic enforcement and speed data to support potential four-way stop at Bradford Road ▶ 1:27:16
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Public ⁠impact

Issues from this meeting with documented community impact.
What was discussed

High-traffic corridor (7,300 AADT); any permanent change such as a four-way stop would be irreversible and affect daily travel patterns, business access, and freight logistics

What was discussed

Pedestrian safety improvement deferred at least 6 months; ADA compliance costs not yet quantified publicly but described as significant enough to require budget season consideration

What was discussed

Average speeds 27% above the posted limit (38 mph in 30 mph zone); a four-way stop would alter traffic flow for a road accounting for up to 22% of quarterly police traffic stops

Topics ⁠discussed

Each topic expands to quotes and full context.
Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Chief Ted Tilson introduced as new Highway Safety Committee member. June 4th meeting minutes reviewed with amendments regarding ADA compliance comments and truck deadheading clarifications.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Forward Centipede group presented 18 months of work on Route 11/Lower Main Street intersection improvements, focusing on safety, accessibility, and connectivity. State DOT representatives provided expert input.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

DOT presented new approach to implementing four-way stops as proactive safety measure rather than last resort, citing successful examples in Delaware and North Carolina with significant crash reductions.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussion of Route 11 traffic volumes (7,300 AADT), crash history analysis showing only 5 accidents in 10 years at the intersection, and concerns about truck traffic backup with proposed four-way stop.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussion of center turn lanes, gateway features, parallel parking, and visual traffic calming measures as alternatives to four-way stop implementation.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussion of visual traffic calming methods including parallel parking, bump-outs, and crosswalks to slow traffic. a speaker explained how wide shoulders make drivers feel they can go fast, while restricted areas with parking and crosswalks force slower speeds.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Details on how to implement parallel parking and bump-out projects, including coordination with DOT, engineering requirements, and maintenance responsibilities. Discussion of paint versus capital project approaches.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Discussion of pedestrian crossing challenges at Route 11, lack of ADA-compliant access to harbor area, and the effectiveness of rectangular rapid flashing beacons versus regular crosswalks.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Proposal for temporary traffic calming demonstration using bollards and temporary striping to test concepts before permanent implementation. Would involve coordination with North Country Council and DOT approval.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Project manager Chris provided update on upcoming road safety audit, noting consultant contract nearly complete and field audit expected within next couple months involving local stakeholders.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Updates on current resurfacing project (completion by end of September), Muzzy Hill Route 11 project (starting fall 2025), and referral to highway director for Georges Mills Bridge maintenance.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Committee decided to table crosswalk project until after budget season due to newly discovered ADA compliance requirements and associated costs that were previously unknown.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Committee member raised concern about inconsistent yellow center line painting on rural residential roads, suggesting it could improve safety by slowing traffic and keeping vehicles in proper lanes.

Speakers: Unidentified speaker
What was discussed

Chair suggested considering four-way stop at Bradford Road/Nutting Road intersection to address speeding issues, noting 68,000 cars counted with average speed of 38 mph in 30 mph zone.

Controversy & ⁠dissent

Where the board, the community, or the agenda diverged.

Potentially controversial issues

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Route 11/Lower Main Street Four-Way Stop Proposal

A local resident (Kathy Meyer) directly challenged the need for a four-way stop, citing 40 years of personal experience without danger and only 5 accidents in 10 years at the intersection. The DOT's own 'proactive' paradigm shift — installing stops before problems emerge — conflicts with data-driven norms and raises concerns about disrupting truck traffic flow. The irreversibility of a four-way stop (DOT explicitly warned 'there's no going back') raises the stakes significantly for businesses and commuters relying on Route 11.
Board position: No formal vote taken; committee leaned toward exploring alternatives (traffic calming, demonstration project) rather than committing to a four-way stop, while keeping the option open pending local support.
Internal dissent
a speaker (Kathy Meyer, community stakeholder) voiced clear opposition based on crash data and personal experience. Within the committee deliberation, tension existed between proactive safety advocates (a speaker/Peter Hoekstra, DOT speakers) and those concerned about truck traffic and low accident history (a speaker, a speaker).
high concern
02

Fenton Landing Crosswalk Postponement Due to Undisclosed ADA Costs

The project was tabled until March 2026 because ADA compliance requirements and associated costs were previously unknown — suggesting inadequate due diligence in earlier planning stages. Residents who anticipated this pedestrian safety improvement may be surprised by the delay, and the undisclosed cost burden raises accountability questions about how the project was originally scoped.
Board position: Unanimously voted to table the project until March 2026 budget cycle.
medium concern
03

Bradford Road Four-Way Stop Proposal (Off-Agenda)

This was raised off-agenda by the Chair despite significant data: 68,000 vehicle counts, average speeds of 38 mph in a 30 mph zone, and police stops comprising 16–22% of quarterly traffic enforcement on that single road. Bradford Road residents were given no notice to attend and respond to a proposal that could materially change access and traffic patterns on their street. The lack of agenda notice is a transparency concern.
Board position: Chair proposed adding a four-way stop at Bradford Road/Nutting Road to the December agenda; no opposition expressed but no vote taken.
medium concern
04

DOT All-Way Stop Paradigm Shift Applied Locally (Off-Agenda)

DOT's presentation of a new policy — implementing four-way stops proactively rather than reactively — was not on the public agenda, yet became the central policy discussion of the meeting. This represents a significant shift in how traffic infrastructure decisions may be made in Sunapee going forward. Residents, businesses, and trucking interests had no notice to attend and engage with this policy direction.
Board position: Committee received the presentation receptively and engaged substantively with the new paradigm, though no formal endorsement was voted on.
medium concern

Community vs. board tension

Public ⁠comment

What residents said — verbatim, with timestamps.
No public comments were identified in this meeting.

Decisions ⁠logged

Every recorded vote, with timestamps and dissents.
Minutes from June 4 meeting approved with amendments
Amendments included clarification on ADA compliance comments by Linda Tannen and explanation of 'deadheading' term related to trucks
Approved unanimously
Motion to table Fenton Landing crosswalk project until March 2026 meeting
Tabled due to budget considerations and newly discovered ADA compliance requirements that would significantly increase costs
Approved unanimously
Next meeting scheduled for December 4th at 9:00 AM
Moved to Thursday to accommodate fire chief's schedule
Approved

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Off-agenda Bradford Road four-way stop proposal — residents had no prior notice of a decision that could permanently alter traffic on their street
At the 9/3 Sunapee Highway Safety Committee meeting, a Bradford Road four-way stop was proposed with zero public notice. The road accounts for up to 22% of quarterly police traffic stops. Bradford Rd residents had no chance to show up and weigh in.
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Fenton Landing crosswalk delayed due to planning failure on ADA costs — pedestrians and residents with disabilities bear the consequence
The Fenton Landing crosswalk — promised to pedestrians near the harbor — was just tabled until March 2026. Reason: ADA compliance costs that weren't caught during original planning. No cost figure has been disclosed publicly yet. (Sunapee Highway Safety Committee, 9/3/25)
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Off-agenda DOT policy shift on four-way stops — a significant change in how traffic infrastructure may be decided in Sunapee, with no public notice
DOT told Sunapee's Highway Safety Committee on 9/3 that four-way stops are now being installed proactively — before problems emerge — not as a last resort. Also: once installed, there's 'no going back.' That policy shift wasn't on the public agenda.
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Community pushback vs. proactive safety rationale at Route 11 — thin crash data used to justify a permanent, irreversible traffic change
Route 11/Lower Main St: 5 accidents in 10 years. A local resident with 40 years of experience said she's never felt unsafe there. The committee is still weighing an irreversible four-way stop. No vote yet, but the direction is being set. (Sunapee, 9/3/25)
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THREAD: Sunapee's Highway Safety Committee met 9/3/25. Two significant proposals were discussed with no prior public notice on the agenda. Here's what happened — and why residents should pay attention. 🧵
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1/ OFF-AGENDA: The chair proposed a four-way stop at Bradford Rd/Nutting Rd intersection. Data cited: 68,000 vehicles counted, average speed 38 mph in a 30 mph zone, 16–22% of quarterly police traffic stops on that one road. Bradford Rd residents got zero advance notice to attend.
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2/ OFF-AGENDA: DOT presented a new policy — installing four-way stops *proactively*, before crash patterns develop. This is a meaningful shift from prior practice. It wasn't listed on the agenda. Businesses, truckers, and commuters on Route 11 had no notice this was coming.
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3/ DOT also stated plainly: once a four-way stop is installed, 'there's no going back' — the only escalation options are a traffic signal or roundabout. That's a permanent, irreversible change being shaped in meetings the public wasn't specifically warned about.
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4/ On Route 11/Lower Main St specifically: a community member with 40 years of local experience noted only 5 accidents at that intersection in 10 years and said she has never felt unsafe. The committee pivoted toward alternatives, but a four-way stop remains on the table.
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5/ Separately: the Fenton Landing crosswalk was voted unanimously to be tabled until March 2026. Reason — ADA compliance requirements were discovered *after* the project was already in progress. No public cost estimate has been disclosed yet.
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6/ What to watch: Bradford Rd four-way stop and rural centerline painting are now formally added to the December 4 agenda. That's your notice to show up. Next meeting: Dec 4, 9:00 AM. (Moved to Thursday to accommodate the fire chief's schedule.)
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SUNAPEE HIGHWAY SAFETY COMMITTEE — September 3, 2025 Meeting Recap

Two significant traffic proposals were discussed at last Wednesday's Highway Safety Committee meeting that were not listed on the public agenda — meaning residents had no specific notice to attend and engage.

First: the committee chair raised the idea of a four-way stop at Bradford Road and Nutting Road. The supporting data is real — 68,000 vehicles counted on that corridor, average speeds of 38 mph in a posted 30 mph zone, and Bradford Road accounting for 16–22% of all quarterly police traffic stops in town. But Bradford Road residents were given no advance notice this would be on the table. A four-way stop would permanently alter traffic flow on their street, and the state DOT made clear at the same meeting that four-way stops are irreversible — once installed, the only escalation options are a traffic signal or a roundabout.

Second: that irreversibility point came from a broader DOT policy presentation — also not on the public agenda — describing a new approach to implementing four-way stops proactively rather than reactively. This is a policy shift that could affect how Sunapee makes traffic infrastructure decisions going forward. Businesses, freight operators, and commuters on Route 11 and elsewhere had no notice this direction was being presented and discussed. On the Route 11/Lower Main Street intersection specifically, a community member with 40 years of local experience pointed out that only 5 accidents have occurred there in 10 years — and said she has never personally found it dangerous. The committee acknowledged the low crash history and, to their credit, pivoted toward exploring traffic calming alternatives and a temporary demonstration project rather than committing to a four-way stop immediately.

Also decided at the meeting: the Fenton Landing crosswalk — a pedestrian safety project near the harbor — was unanimously tabled until at least March 2026. The reason is that ADA compliance requirements were discovered after the project was already underway, and the associated costs weren't accounted for in the original scope. No public cost estimate has been released yet. Residents who were expecting that improvement, particularly those with mobility challenges accessing the harbor, are now waiting at least another six months.

The Bradford Road four-way stop and rural centerline painting issues have been formally added to the December 4 agenda (9:00 AM, moved to Thursday). If you live on Bradford Road or use Route 11 regularly, that is the meeting to attend.

Action ⁠items

Who owes what, by when.
Continue working with state officials on Route 11 improvement proposals
Assigned: Peter Hoekstra/Forward Centipede Committee · Due: Ongoing
Continue evaluating intersection for potential all-way stop implementation pending local support
Assigned: DOT (Bill Lambert) · Due: When resources allow
Coordinate with North Country Council for traffic calming demonstration project
Assigned: a speaker/Tim · Due: Fall 2025
Meet with Highway Safety Committee to refine traffic calming ideas before presenting to Select Board
Assigned: a speaker/Tim · Due: To be scheduled based on availability
Reach out to town to coordinate stakeholders for Georges Mills road safety audit
Assigned: a speaker/Chris (DOT Safety Project Manager) · Due: Next few weeks
Complete meeting minutes amendments with Beth
Assigned: a speaker/Jen · Due: Not specified
Coordinate with Mike and Nick regarding Trowel Hill trees and update committee via email
Assigned: a speaker/Jen · Due: Before next meeting
Add rural road center line painting and Bradford Road four-way stop to next meeting agenda
Assigned: Committee · Due: December 4th meeting

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