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Board of Firewards — April 9, 2026
The meeting featured pointed debates over professional standards and public challenges regarding labor law compliance and board mission.
Public impact
Issues from this meeting with documented community impact.
01
Fire Chief Hiring
The selection of leadership determines long-term department efficacy, grant writing capabilities, and ISO rating (which affects insurance rates). Affected: All residents of Sunapee
safety change
Decisions logged
Every recorded vote, with timestamps and dissents.
Recommendation of Fire Ward candidate to the Select Board.
After voting on individual candidates, the board reached a majority decision to recommend Mike Jozin (noted as Mike Joseph in discussion) to the Select Board.
Passed
Modification of Fire Chief job description requirements.
The board agreed to change the educational requirement to: 'Associate's degree in fire science, business, or other relevant field.' They also agreed to maintain the 20-minute response time requirement.
Consensus
Topics discussed
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▶ 01:38 Pump Testing Update
The board discussed recent pump testing, noting minor issues that are being addressed and discussing potential electrical/sensor issues on Rescue One.
Speakers: Unidentified speaker
▶ 06:04 Fire Ward Vacancy and Applications
The board reviewed three applicants (Rick Mastin, Rich Ham, and Mike Joseph) for the Fire Ward position and discussed the pros and cons of having a current department member on the board.
Speakers: Unidentified speaker
▶ 46:09 Fire Chief Job Description
The board debated the educational and certification requirements for the Fire Chief position, specifically whether to require a college degree or focus on applicable fire service certifications versus prioritizing experience and certifications.
Speakers: Unidentified speaker
▶ 89:00 Vehicle Upfit and Compliance
The board discussed updating the town cruiser to meet NFPA regulations, including vinyl decals/wraps and the potential use of proceeds from selling an old vehicle to fund the project.
Speakers: Unidentified speaker
▶ 97:43 Recruitment Process for Fire Chief
Discussion regarding whether to handle the hiring process in-house or outsource it to the Fire Academy or a private firm, including the potential costs and benefits of each method.
Speakers: Unidentified speaker
▶ 107:40 Personnel Compliance and Work Schedules
A discussion on the employment status of a per diem employee (Timmy), noting concerns regarding labor law compliance, overtime, and the need to define a formal work schedule.
Speakers: Unidentified speaker
Controversy & dissent
Where the board, the community, or the agenda diverged.
Potentially controversial issues
01
Fire Chief Job Qualifications
There is a fundamental disagreement over whether the new Fire Chief should be selected based on academic credentials (college degrees) or technical fire service certifications and experience. This affects the quality of leadership and the breadth of the candidate pool.
Board position: The board reached a consensus to require an Associate's degree in a relevant field, moving away from a purely certification-based model.
Internal dissent
a speaker expressed explicit opposition to the degree requirement, favoring a focus on applicable training over collegiate education to ensure a timely hire.
medium concern
02
Fire Ward Board Composition (Conflict of Interest)
The board debated whether active department members should serve on the Fire Ward board, weighing the benefit of direct representation against legal risks and potential conflicts of interest.
Board position: The board proceeded to recommend an applicant (Mike Jozin) who is an active department member, despite discussing legal complexities.
medium concern
03
Personnel Compliance (Timmy)
A community member raised a formal concern regarding potential labor law violations and improper classification of a per diem employee regarding overtime and payroll compliance.
Board position: The board acknowledged the potential risk of 'skirting the rules' and discussed the need to define formal schedules to ensure compliance.
medium concern
Community vs. board tension
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Action items
Who owes what, by when.
Pass the Fire Ward recommendation to the Select Board.
Assigned: Shannon · Due: 2026-04-04
Send the most recent job description to the board for review.
Assigned: a speaker
Finalize the job description with agreed-upon changes and send it to the Select Board.
Assigned: a speaker · Due: Before next meeting
Obtain final quotes for the cruiser upfit/decals.
Assigned: a speaker · Due: Next meeting
Research success rates of outsourced vs. local hiring from other towns.
Assigned: a speaker · Due: Next meeting
Contact Captain Burns at the Fire Academy to discuss a potential working session/process.
Assigned: a speaker · Due: Next meeting
Notable statements
The mission of a firefighter is to make everybody he serves with better than himself. — Unidentified speaker · Discussing the qualities desired in department personnel and leadership. ▶ 15:57
When your attorney says, 'thank God, that would have made it complicated,' to me, that sounds expensive. — Unidentified speaker · Discussing potential legal risks of having active department members serve on the Fire Ward board. ▶ 43:00
We're not paying for somebody to just come sit in a hole... we need somebody who can do [grant writing and ISO rating preparation]. — Unidentified speaker · Discussing the need for high-level leadership rather than just a placeholder in the new Chief position. ▶ 64:27
I'm somewhat opposed to requiring the position to have a degree... I'm generally more in favor of focusing on that [applicable training] than being worried about having a collegiate degree. — Unidentified speaker · Debating whether the Fire Chief job description should mandate a college degree. ▶ 53:13
I'm erring on the side of safety in the sense that I want to get this position filled as expediently as reasonably possible with a good candidate. — Unidentified speaker · Expressing concern that overly strict educational requirements might delay hiring until late summer. ▶ 71:01
We really need to look at this... we're probably skirting the rules pretty significantly with Timmy when I look at his payroll. — Unidentified speaker · Raising concerns about Department of Labor compliance regarding per diem hours and overtime. ▶ 111:00
Public comment
What residents said — verbatim, with timestamps.
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Total speakers
2
Addressed
1
Partial
0
Not addressed
Unidentified speaker
Addressed
The speaker questioned the mission of the Fire Wards and whether they advocate for the town or the fire department. They also inquired about the selection criteria for new members, specifically regarding fire service training.
Key concern
Understanding the mission, advocacy focus, and selection criteria of the Fire Wards.
Board responseThe board explained that the Wards balance the needs of the department with town costs and that selection is based on finding the 'best fit' rather than strict scientific criteria.
The board directly answered the questions regarding the mission, advocacy, and selection process, though the speaker continued to offer opinions on the matter.
Mike Joseph
Partial
As an applicant, the speaker shared his extensive experience in the Sunapee Fire Department and his desire to represent members. He emphasized the importance of having an active member on the board to help bridge the gap between the community and the department.
Key concern
Representing department members on the board and utilizing his 21 years of experience to move the department forward.
Board responseThe board members discussed the potential legal/conflict of interest concerns of having a member on the board, but acknowledged the benefits of direct representation.
The board engaged in a lengthy discussion regarding his candidacy and the merit of his experience, though they debated the conflict of interest aspect.
Unidentified speaker
Addressed
The speaker raised concerns regarding payroll compliance for a per diem employee named Timmy. They argued that based on his hours, he may legally be considered a full-time employee subject to overtime.
Key concern
Labor law compliance regarding employee classifications and overtime pay.
Board responseThe board acknowledged the concern and discussed potential solutions, such as creating a different work schedule or finding other roles (like health officer) to maintain his hours.
The board listened to the analysis and discussed future steps to ensure compliance and manage the employee's schedule.
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